In the just plain wrong department file this story: A Baptist church in North Carolina kicked nine members out for voting for John Kerry. Protestant churches have a bad habit of making all kinds of stupid stuff (i.e. unbiblical) tests of faith or fellowship and this is just another. Making political affiliation a test of fellowship is wrong. I’m not a big fan of the milquetoast Jesus, nor of the political Jesus. He was neither, although some try to portray Him that way now.
Archive for category Faith
The Prodigal Returns
Apr 26
John Zimmer at Letters from Babylon has a great post, The Prodigal Brother contemplating my favorite parable of Jesus: the prodigal son. There are a couple of major lessons in the parable, one for the son and one for the brother. The son’s lesson is about receiving God’s love and forgiveness, and the brother’s lesson is about extending God’s love and forgiveness to others. They are both hard lessons to really learn and understand.
Christian Law Making
Apr 6
Joe Carter at the Evangelical Outpost has announced a a new blog symposium — Judeo-Christian Morality in an Ethically Pluralistic Society. I wrote something vaguely near that topic last summer, so I’m slightly tweaking it and presenting it here for my entry in the symposium. I’m specifically addressing how Christians should approach law making, in any human society.
Christian Libertarian – that’s how Josh Claybourn describes himself. I don’t know if I’d go that far, but I think that Christianity with its emphasis on faith is more libertarian than works (following the law) based religions.
What are the beliefs of Christianity (at least from my point of view) on law? Well, God does have laws. There are laws you have no choice about — the physical laws that govern the universe. They are the same everywhere and universally obeyed by all of creation without any possible choice.
But there are also other laws, where we do have choice. Let’s call them moral laws, and we can keep them, or we can break them. Up to this point, some other faiths would be agreeing with me. But here’s where Christianity comes in — nobody follows moral laws perfectly. We are all sinners is a basic Christian teaching. And what is the penalty for sin? Death. Now I happen to think that there are immediate consequences for vice and virtue, and there are defered consequences. But what’s clear is, under God’s law, every person on the planet has transgressed against God’s moral laws, and the penalty for doing so is death. I see dead people, and they don’t even realize they are dead.
So if we were to institute God’s law as our own civic laws, we’d have to execute everybody on the planet. So really, what would be the point? And quite frankly, it seems awfully presumptious to pre-empt God. Since no man is saved by the law, why then should we try? And what would our plan of salvation be?
What then should our laws be based upon? Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is a good start. Human laws should be for our own use, not our own goodness. If God does not compel good, how and why should we, especially since our means are so much less. And as our means are so much less, so too should our laws be.
To be sure, there is overlap between God’s moral law and what should be human laws – thou shalt not murder comes to mind. But who’s going to enforce thou shalt not covet your neighbor’s spouse or stuff? Or love God with all your heart, or love your neighbor as yourself? Jesus called out the last two as the wellsprings of all the commandments, and is there any real way to humanly enforce these laws?
Now don’t take this to mean that I don’t think following God’s laws isn’t important — I just think that is between ourselves and God, with the help of our fellow children in Christ, not the local constable and magistrate. The law doesn’t save. Repeat that after me: the law doesn’t save — Jesus saves. It’s okay if humans don’t outlaw everything that God does. By all means we should never shirk declaring what’s right and what’s wrong nor should we lose sight of the power of our example.
Unless you read the New York Times, you can’t have escaped the fact that Pope John Paul II died. Here in St. Louis, the local paper has treated us to wall to wall coverage, seemingly the only other thing that comes close was that the final four (as in College Basketball) was played here as well. The cable news people have wall to wall coverage, pushing even Michael Jackson’s legal difficulties into the background. I’m not sure what I can add, but I’ll try anyway.
I’m not Catholic, and this isn’t the time to go into my theological differences with Catholicism (of which I have a few). And as an institution that has been around so long, it’s made it’s share of mistakes. But this isn’t the time to go into them. Now is the time to remember Pope John Paul II and celebrate his life. And there is much to celebrate. But I’m not going to give a laundry list, instead I’m just going to say that this Pope had moral authority, and he excercised it well. I think one of the differences between left and right is that the left looks more to institutions, such as the UN, for moral authority, while the right looks more to people for moral authority (or at least for it’s expression). And one of interesting quirks of people, this one included, is how we love to have a moral authority on our side, but seek to undermine it when it is arrayed against us.
The next pope may end up with as much or more such moral authority as Pope John Paul II, though I doubt it, but he won’t have it to start with. It takes a lifetime of moral action, of consistantly standing up for what you believe to be right despite all the slings and arrows that come your way. Now I don’t think the Pope was always right, but I do think that because of who he was you needed to pay attention to what he was saying. I will miss his voice.
Holy Saturday
Mar 26
To go with your Good Friday post, here is a painting:
“Christ on the Cross”, by Diego Rodreguez de Silva y Velezquez.
Oil painting on canvas from 1632, now in the Prado Museum in Madrid, Spain.
Good Friday
Mar 25
In honor of Good Friday, some Christian links:
Eric from In The Agora meditates on the meaning of Jesus’s words on the cross: Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani.
Kim at the Upward Call considers suffering by design: “Not only was it suffering by design, but also by obedience. Jesus embraced the pain. He chose it – obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. (Philippians 2:8). ” Kim explains the design and its importance.
Coffee Swirls surveys the wondrous cross and Isaiah: “In the spirit of just how simple the gospel message truly is, I will let this post speak for me today, as Christians observe Good Friday to commemorate the passion (the suffering) of Jesus Christ.”
Rebecca at Rebecca Writes talks about what the resurrection proves to the world: “The Christ we take to the world is not just another prophet or teacher, and not just a humble servant, but the one whom God has shown to be the very Lord of All–the Son-of-God-in-power–by his resurrection from the dead.”
Tulip Girl notes “At this stage in my life, so much of my reading and studying is filtered through the perspective of mothering. This includes my studying of the Bible and theology. I find the deeper I dig into God’s Word, the more light it shines on my life–and how I ought to mother.” I feel the same way about fatherhood. While I stop there, Tulip Girl doesn’t and describes her thoughts on how to restore gently and carry burdens.
Mark Byron’s Edifier du Jour is from John 17. Mark’s take:
We too often look at salvation as the end of the process; our ticket’s punched for Heaven and all’s right with the world. It is the end of one process but the beginning of yet another, the process of taking that worldly soul and re-manufacturing it for godly uses. That process will sand off some of the hooks that the less-savory things of the world like to attach themselves to; the world will start to she-dog about the removal of those hooks, but let it.
Oddly enough, my Sunday School teacher said pretty much the same thing this past Sunday — too often all we seemed concerned about is salvation, for ourselves and others as if that is the finish line, when we should be just as concerned about sanctification, our spiritual growth in Christ.
And if that isn’t enough for you, then the Christian Carnival should help.
Fake or Real?
Mar 8
Stromata Blog has a great post about the Shroud of Turin (hat tip Cronaca). Nathan Wilson, described as a conservative Protestant, has developed an extremely easy way to make a 3-D negative image on cloth — just like the Shroud. Put a positive image (on glass or other transparent material) above a cloth in sunshine, wait days, and viola, a 3-D negative image appears as the portion under the clear portion is bleached lighter.
Tom Veal and David Nishimura struggle with the two possible scenarios:
The shroud could have been created by someone, say a crusader, taking an ancient burial cloth (and therefore having the correct age, pollen, and weaving) to a painter who then created an image on a very large piece of transparent material that depicted crucifixion images at variance with the accepted iconography of how Christ was crucified, leaving them out in the sun for days, then deciding that that wasn’t good enough, turning the shroud and the transparent image over, lining up the image on the underside of the cloth with the flipped image and repeating the process.
On the other hand, the shroud was real yet somehow escaped notice by Christians until 1354 when the de Charnay family could no longer contain themselves, or it was discovered by a Crusader in the Jerusalem area who took it home to France and only then was it discovered to be a relic.
As Tom Veal says: “It seems to me that all theories about the Shroud are quite improbable.” Which is pretty much what a friend who was a Shroud lore fan told me years ago — it confounds believer and unbeliever alike. And yet it exists, which I suppose is its own miracle.
For many years a Dr. Warren Hern has been operating an abortion clinic in Boulder, Colorado, right across from the hospital in North Boulder. He and the clinic have been protested on and off for many years, but the abortion clinic is still in operation.
Hern gives the discarded babies (fetuses, tissue, or whatever you want to call them) to Crist Mortuary, who cremates them. Hern and Crist have had this arrangement for 6 years. That part was public but not very well known. However, other news came out this weekend . . .
Crist Mortuary, for 6 years, has been giving the remaining ashes to Sacred Heart of Mary Catholic church, a church in the open space along South Boulder Road (without Hern’s knowledge). Sacred Heart has been giving the ashes a proper Christian burial, and they have a “Memorial Wall” stating that the ashes buried here are from aborted babies. Sacred Heart is not really a public place, but any visitor can drive in and look around. That’s where local residents vote.
Anyway, Sacred Heart “went public” this weekend with the information that they are burying the aborted fetuses from Hern’s clinic after Crist cremates them. Going public may have been a mistake. Of course there was an uproar, and Dr. Hern denounced the “cynical exploitation of private grief for political purposes.” I don’t know why Sacred Heart went public after 6 years, but they did. There was also a report in the Boulder Daily Camera saying that Sacred Heart’s practice had been described in the Daily Camera about 4 years ago. I don’t know if the connection to Hern’s clinic through Crist Mortuary was made clear, though.
Here is the story on CNN.com (January 24, 2005):
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/01/24/abortion.ap/index.html
Dr. Hern will probably stop sending the aborted babies to Crist Mortuary at this point. I don’t know what he will do with them.
The CNN article states that Hern had a contract with Crist, which contradicts the story that I heard saying that Crist was doing the cremations free of charge. A legally valid contract specifies that both parties contribute something. If Crist was doing the cremations free of charge, then Hern is without a valid contract and has no reason to complain.
I fail to see why Dr. Hern is complaining, anyway. According to him, the aborted babies are “just tissue”, right? If somebody wants to bury them a certain way, what is that to him? He doesn’t own every landfill in Colorado. Sacred Heart is not a grave robber, they’re a landfill robber if anything. If some flake wanted to give my empty milk cartons a “proper burial”, I would go on record as saying they’re stupid and wasting their time. Then I would set out the milk cartons for collection. I might even rinse them out!
Lots of things to think about.
A lot of people like to dump on Boulder as this immoral town full of decadent hippies and evil oppression and strange cults and so on, but the picture on CNN.com shows 250 parishioners gathering to pray for the aborted babies. At least 250 people in Boulder County care very much what happens to what they believe is a very young human being, even in death. 250 people revere what they believe to be human life, and go to a lot of effort to respect that life. Maybe Boulder is somewhat weird and fitness-crazed, but some Boulderites also believe in things eternal.
In January 2004 Pat Robertson of the “700 Club” predicted that George Bush would win re-election by a landslide. Predictions come and predictions go, but this one was notable because Robertson said God told him so! If you search Google for
“Pat Robertson” blowout landslide
You will get a few news stories like these:
- http://www.sullivan-county.com/news/pat_quotes/pat_god.htm
- http://mensnewsdaily.com/archive/newswire/news2004/0104/010504-robertson.htm
- http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/2004-01-02-god-bush_x.htm
- http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/story.cfm?story=65520&ran=236535
Robertson, who ran unsuccessfully for the Republican nomination for president in 1988 against former President George H. W. Bush, told viewers of the nationally-syndicated “700 Club” that there are “things that I believe the Lord was showing me as I spent several days in prayer at the end of 2003.”
The long-time televangelist told his Christian Broadcasting Network audience that God said Bush will win in a landslide in 2004.
“I think George Bush is going to win in a walk,” Robertson said, explaining that the Lord has been speaking to him a lot recently about the upcoming presidential election.
He added, “I really believe I’m hearing from the Lord it’s going to be like a blowout election in 2004. It’s shaping up that way.”
Robertson was clearly not offering his personal judgment here; he is obviously claiming to speak for the Lord. In an interview with CNN’s Wolf Blitzer in February, Robertson confirmed his prediction. Although Howard Dean was mentioned in the original story, Robertson did not qualify his prediction that way: “Robertson offered no prediction on who will get the Democratic nomination. ‘I don’t have a clue,’ he said with a laugh.”
Robertson was wrong. Bush indeed defeated Kerry in the 2004 Presidential Election, but it was no landslide, and no commentator is calling it a blowout:
- Bush: 59,459,765 popular votes (51%) and 286 electoral votes.
- Kerry: 55,949,407 popular votes (48%) and 252 electoral votes.
So – Pat Robertson issued a prophecy in God’s name, and it turned out to be wrong. What does the Bible say about this situation?
“But the prophet who presumes to say in my name a thing I have not commanded him to say, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die. You may say in your heart, ‘How are we to know what word was not spoken by Yahweh?’ When a prophet speaks in the name of Yahweh and the thing does not happen and the word is not fulfilled, then it has not been spoken by Yahweh. The prophet has spoken with presumption. You have nothing to fear from him.”
Deuteronomy 18:20-22
Pat Robertson is a false prophet. There is no other reasonable conclusion.
In the context of Deuteronomy, the phrase “that prophet shall die” implies “…and you shall carry out the execution by stoning him to death.” False prophecy is very serious! False prophets discourage people from believing in God, and those people may end up going to hell. God doesn’t like that. See Matthew 18:14: “Even so it is not the will of your Father who is in heaven that one of these little ones should perish.”; and Luke 17:2: “It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were thrown into the sea, rather than that he should cause one of these little ones to stumble.”
Let me state clearly here that I am not advocating the Old Testament’s death penalty for Pat Robertson. The New Testament provides another way to deal with the situation:
1 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them–bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping. 4 For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment; 5 if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others; 6 if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly; 7 and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men 8 (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)– 9 if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
2 Peter 2
My understanding of that passage is that we should have nothing more to do with the false prophets. God will deal with them in His own way and in His own time.
“But be doers of the Word, and not only hearers” – James 1:22
Christian Libertarian
Jul 16
Christian Libertarian – that’s how Josh Claybourn describes himself. I don’t know if I’d go that far, but I think that Christianity with its emphasis on faith is more libertarian than works (following the law) based religions.
What are the beliefs of Christianity (at least from my point of view) on law? Well, God does have laws. There are laws you have no choice about — the physical laws that govern the universe. They are the same everywhere and universally obeyed by all of creation without any possible choice.
But there are also other laws, where we do have choice. Let’s call them moral laws, and we can keep them, or we can break them. Up to this point, some other faiths would be agreeing with me. But here’s where Christianity comes in — nobody follows moral laws perfectly. We are all sinners is a basic Christian teaching. And what is the penalty for sin? Death. Now I happen to think that there are immediate consequences for vice and virtue, and there are deferred consequences. But what’s clear is, under God’s law, every person on the planet has transgressed against God’s moral laws, and the penalty for doing so is death. I see dead people, and they don’t even realize they are dead.
So if we were to institute God’s law as our own, we’d have to execute everybody on the planet. So really, what would be the point? And quite frankly, it seems awfully presumptuous to pre-empt God. Since no man is saved by the law, why then should we try? And what would our plan of salvation be?
What then should our laws be based upon? Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is a good start. Human laws should be for our own use, not our own good. If God does not compel good, how and why should we, especially since our means are so much less. And as our means are so much less, so too should our laws be.
To be sure, there is overlap between God’s moral law and what should be human laws – thou shalt not murder comes to mind. But who’s going to enforce thou shalt not covet your neighbor’s spouse or stuff? Or love God with all your heart, or love your neighbor as yourself? Jesus called out the last two as the wellsprings of all the commandments, and is there any real way to humanly enforce these laws?
Now don’t take this to mean that I don’t think following God’s laws isn’t important — I just think that is between ourselves and God, with the help of our fellow children in Christ, not the local constable and magistrate. The law doesn’t save. Repeat that after me: the law doesn’t save — Jesus saves. It’s okay if humans don’t outlaw everything that God does. By all means we should never shirk declaring what’s right and what’s wrong nor should we lose sight of the power of our example.