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More of the Same

Somebody finally found a link that lays out the responsibility for people to protect classified information even after it has been disclosed:

Question 19: If information that a signer of the SF 312 knows to have been classified appears in a public source, for example, in a newspaper article, may the signer assume that the information has been declassified and disseminate it elsewhere?

Answer: No. Information remains classified until it has been officially declassified. Its disclosure in a public source does not declassify the information. Of course, merely quoting the public source in the abstract is not a second unauthorized disclosure. However, before disseminating the information elsewhere or confirming the accuracy of what appears in the public source, the signer of the SF 312 must confirm through an authorized official that the information has, in fact, been declassified. If it has not, further dissemination of the information or confirmation of its accuracy is also an unauthorized disclosure.

The bold portion doesn’t say should have known was classified, or could have known if he’d checked into it, but it says knows.

As for Rove, the question(s) are was her employement at the CIA classified, and if so, did Rove know that. We’re assuming her status was because of the referrel, but I don’t know if we’ve actually seen the referrel. But let’s answer yes (and this is a hypothetical since I don’t actually know), in which case for Rove to have committed a crime, he had to know that her status was classified. If Rove knew, then it doesn’t matter if a reporter mentioned it to him first. If he didn’t know, it doesn’t matter if Rove mentioned it to a reporter first. Now if Rove was accurate in saying her learned her status from a reporter, and had no official source, then he didn’t do anything illegal, because he didn’t know it was classified. You might think it sleazy, I might think that he should have asked the White House security people about it before commenting, but that doesn’t mean it was illegal.

And that brings us to Joe Wilson. He knew of his wife’s covert status, and that it was classified.  He told reporter David Corn all about his wife covert, classified activities:

So he [Wilson] will neither confirm nor deny that his wife–who is the mother of three-year-old twins–works for the CIA. But let’s assume she does. That would seem to mean that the Bush administration has screwed one of its own top-secret operatives in order to punish Wilson or to send a message to others who might challenge it. 

The sources for Novak’s assertion about Wilson’s wife appear to be “two senior administration officials.” If so, a pair of top Bush officials told a reporter the name of a CIA operative who apparently has worked under what’s known as “nonofficial cover” and who has had the dicey and difficult mission of tracking parties trying to buy or sell weapons of mass destruction or WMD material. If Wilson’s wife is such a person–and the CIA is unlikely to have many employees like her–her career has been destroyed by the Bush administration. (Assuming she did not tell friends and family about her real job, these Bush officials have also damaged her personal life.) Without acknowledging whether she is a deep-cover CIA employee, Wilson says, “Naming her this way would have compromised every operation, every relationship, every network with which she had been associated in her entire career. This is the stuff of Kim Philby and Aldrich Ames.” If she is not a CIA employee and Novak is reporting accurately, then the White House has wrongly branded a woman known to friends as an energy analyst for a private firm as a CIA officer. That would not likely do her much good.

This is far more than Novaks “CIA operative”, and make it crystal clear that she was covert. If you read the article, it’s pretty clear that Mr. Wilson was the source, and so Cliff May decided to ask Corn that very question. 

From an email Corn sent to Cliff May:

All I can say again is, nice try. When I spoke to Joe Wilson after the Novak leak, he would not tell me whether or not his wife worked at the CIA. He spoke only in hypotheticals. He said, imagine if she did, what would this leak mean, AND imagine if she did not, what would this leak mean. So I do deny that he told me because he did not. That’s the truth, the absolute truth. No spin. No parsing. No stonewalling. If you find any wiggle room in this response, let me know and I will unwiggle it. And you can believe it or not.

If you watch Jeopardy, you know the answers are phrased in the form of a question. Joe Wilson wasn’t asking questions, because he knew the answer. He was providing the answer in the form of a question. If I were on a jury that heard this case, I’d convict. (oops, there goes my chances).

This is what really gaps my ax, is that Joe Wilson has been leaking leaking, no make that spewing classified info – about his trip, about his wife, about WMD intellegence, maybe even about the sweet tea — he’s lied more times than I can count, and yet where are the calls for him to be frog marched out of his home, let alone indicted? No where. Instead, attention is focused on maybe Karl Rove leaked a subset of that information.

It’s a crazy, mixed up world which we live in.

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Yesterday I speculated (and it is just that, speculation) that Valerie Plame Wilson was a source for Judith Miller on WMD.  Lot’s of people have speculated that Judith Miller was the source and the possible start of “everybody knew” Valerie Plame Wilson worked for the CIA.  Today Cliff May speculates that Joe Wilson was the source for Valerie Plame Wilson being covert agent for the CIA in an article for David Corn – which amazingly enough Corn confirms. If you think the Wilson’s hypotheticals weren’t a confirmation, remember that Joe Wilson wasn’t speculating, he knew. Simply working for the CIA isn’t classified information. Being a covert agent is. (That’s the covert part.)

So now we know who actually outed Valerie Plame Wilson as a covert CIA operative – her husband, Joe Wilson. Not Bob Novak, not Karl Rove, but Joe Wilson. Novak didn’t have access to her status as a covert agent, nor did he identify her as such. Karl Rove didn’t have access to her status as a covert agent, let alone her name until a reporter told him, nor did he identify her as such. Joe Wilson knew her status as a (prior) covert agent, and he did identify her as such.

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I’m finding the entire Plame Wilson Novak Rove mess to be pretty much awful from start to finish. Nobody looks good in this, and I mean nobody as a person or institution — except Tom Maguire, who’s been all over this story since day one and is the only person, Ambassador Wilson included, who can keep track of all the different stories Joe Wilson has told and who he told them to. But back to the story,as I wrote back when this first broke:

Joe Wilson served our country ably and courageously during the Gulf War as acting ambassador to Iraq for which he got zero public notice; Valerie Plame served our country ably and courageously for years for which she got (understandably) zero public notice. What they are recognized for now has been on his part a willingness to criticize President Bush beyond any factual basis (the more strident the criticism, the greater the recognition); and on her part simple victimization. This is crazy. Talk about your perverse incentives.

The CIA looks bad for several reasons. First, they send somebody out on a super secret mission who’s investigative technique is to talk to old friends, and since he apparently has done this sort of thing for them in the past and he is currently married to the person who recommended him they pretty much know this is what he will do. Now it isn’t a bad technique in itself, but when he does report his findings, they are deemed inconclusive in part because: “We also had to consider that the former Nigerien officials knew that what they were saying would reach the U.S. government and that this might have influenced what they said.” So what was the point of sending somebody to talk to former Nigerien officials if we weren’t going to believe what they told to our investigator because they knew he was on a super secret mission from the US government? 

Second, they seem to have real troubles with opsec. In addition to having had a string of former bosses caught with classified material in their possession when it shouldn’t have been, you have somebody go on this mission and then blab all about it when he gets back. Ambassador Wilson filed a classified report, and then turn around and leaked it and eventually wrote not just an oped on the subject, but a book. No attempt was made to stop him (and please don’t cite the first amendment – if he has a security clearance, he signed an agreement not to disclose classified info). Yeah, I know his defense would be that nothing he said afterward had any resemblence to what was in his report (or the truth) as he lied about everything, who sent him, why he was sent, what he reported, and who saw his report

Third, they seem to be a little cavalier with the identities of their covert operatives. How the heck did Karl Rove find out about Valerie Plame? 

There are two possibilities – one is that the CIA told the White House. I imagine when Joe Wilson’s op ed hit the fan, the White House asked the CIA who the heck is this guy and what’s he doing going on CIA missions. And they (meaning Tenet or whoever answers the phone when the White House calls) could have told them that he was married to a CIA analyst who got him the job – no name mentioned – which squares with Rove told Cooper. Of course, in the words of Joe Biden, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out who Joe Wilson’s wife is, especially since Ambassador Wilson included it in his web bio

Now perhaps her identity as a covert operator was so well guarded that the person passing along this info from the CIA didn’t know that under that mild mannered analyst cover was a covert operative. Which then raises the question, is it really a good idea to have covert operatives go to work as regular CIA employees? And there’s another question – did the CIA impress upon the White House the need for secrecy in regards to Ms. Plame’s identity?

I’ll get to the other possibility in a moment because there are two loose ends. One is Novak himself. We know Rove was Cooper’s source, but who was Novak’s? I don’t think it was Rove for several reasons – one is that Novak said the person wasn’t a political operator, which Rove is; Novak seems to have already given up his source before Cooper was forced to, and if it were Rove, Cooper wouldn’t have held out let alone have pressure applied; and Rove told Cooper she was an analyst, but Novak said operative – two very different things; and I think Rove denied being a source of the leak because he wasn’t Novak’s source and didn’t think any one else (i.e. Cooper) would ever be forced to.

Now we come to the question, raised by Bryan Preston at Junkyard Blog, of why Judith Miller is still in jail. If Rove were her source, she could get out of jail. So I doubt he is. And if not Rove, than who? Well, Ms. Miller wrote a lot of articles about WMD before the war in Iraq. Where’d she get her info? Could some have come from CIA sources? Perhaps from a WMD analyst? Perhaps from a co-worker who outed Ms. Plame? Perhaps from Valerie Plame herself? I don’t know, but it’s interesting that Ms. Miller is going to the mat on protecting her source when apparently all others have been given up.

She has the key to unravel the whole mystery, and yet she chooses silence. I’m supposed to be happy that a journalist is refusing to tell what she knows? I’m supposed to be informed by her silence? That’s the craziest part of this whole sordid mess.

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The web’s aflame with rumor and speculation over Fitzgerald’s investigation into the Plame kerfuffle. Of course, I get all my Plame news from Tom Maguire, who never grows tired of the fact that we know so little. Consider that Fitzgerald and his people are famously closed lipped. Who do all these leaks come from? Even if they came from Fitzgerald (gigantic if there), let me remind you of the most important point about leaks involving politics (OK, any leak for that matter) – they are always self serving for the leaker. Always. The fact that the leaker can provide only partial truth allows the leaker to control and manipulate the story.

And isn’t leaking grand jury testimony a crime as well? I understand a witness can come out and talk about the questioning, even lie about it like good old Sid Blumenthal, but other than that the testimony is legally protected. So the only way for it not to be a crime is if the leaker about a particular witnesses testimony ultimately derived their leak from the particular witness? Which leads us right back to the self serving nature of any leak. Sigh.

So what’s really going on here. Is the most important part of the whole sodden mess the fact that Valerie Plame was outed as a CIA employee? Is it that CIA is a rogue organization that is trying to undermine the elected President of the United States? Or does it’s import derive as proxy for the Iraq war itself?

Personally, what I care about most is the unauthorized discloure of classified information. If Fitzgerald can return indictments about that, even perjury indictements, I’ll consider it a successful investigation. But I want the perjury to be perjury, not just how good Karl Rove’s memory is. So if he deliberately lied to conceal unauthorized disclosure, then good. If he forgot a particular conversation of several that occured with one or more people, then bad. And by that I mean if he were tardy in disclosing a conversation with Matt Cooper, someone who Rove had no reason to believe wouldn’t disclose, then an indictment is just butt covering.

But if it turns out that the Valerie Plame wasn’t covert and the CIA persued this case while it has let plenty of other equally or more serious dislosures go in the past, then I think the CIA becomes the big story. Why should it be OK for a disgruntled current or ex-CIA employee to disclose classified information to the press, but not the White House?

Here are the unanswered questions for me. Was Valerie Plame a covert agent at the time her name was leaked? If so, it raised for me another important question then – how did her name leave the CIA? What does that say about their security proceedures? If not, what is the CIA trying to pull here?

Which reporter broke the sacred confidentiality to tell Joe Wilson who the sources were? I mean, how else was he able to finger Karl Rove and Scooter Libby way back at the start of the kerfuffle? It was only a month after Novak’s article that Wilson said he wanted to see Karl Rove “frogmarched” out of the White House in handcuffs. Libby’s name followed soon after, and then Joe Wilson backtracked and shut up about it. Odd how the press isn’t interested in Joe Wilson’s source, which he admitted to, and how that source named the two people that have been most prominently featured as people who talked to the press.

Speaking of Joe, why isn’t he being investigated as the man who clearly did the most to out his own wife? For those who like convoluted conspiracies (I’m not one), why not think the Valerie was tired of living the covert life, have Joe out you, and bam you’re out, in the clear, the darlings of the media, book deals, Vanity Fair articles. Hey, it’s more plausible than Flight Plan.

What about the role of the State Department? Plame was “moving to State Department cover”, there are reports of a State Department memo with her name in it, State opposed the war in Iraq just like the CIA. Has the institutional opposition at these two power centers overstepped the bounds of good government? And will we ever see that probed?

Most of all, what does Fitzgerald really have?

OK, that last one is a repeat of how we know so little. And what amazes me is how there are some who don’t seem to realize that. We don’t even know if Valerie Plame was covert. Did the neighbors know she worked for the CIA? I have no idea, but Mark Kleiman is convinced by an article in the LAT which relies on two neighbors. Did the LAT contact “all” the neighbors but only inlcuded quotes from two? Cliff May said lots of people in Washington knew a long time ago – but Cliff wasn’t a neighbor. Was he just talking trash, or was he telling the truth? Beats me, I don’t live in Washington. We have to rely on these leaked reports to the press, which clearly has lower standards about such leaks than, say, allegations by a victim that she was raped by Bill Clinton.

Some people don’t even know what we do know – namely that Joe Wilson is a liar who came forward not courageously before the war, but after when the status of the Iraq WMD was known. If Ambassador Wilson was so upset by President Bush’s so called manipulation of intellegence before the war (you know, when CIA head Tenet was claiming that Iraqi WMD was a “slam dunk”), why didn’t he come forward then, when it could have done some good?

One last final thoughts (not for the subject, just the post) – whatever you may think of Fitzgerald’s integrity, it seems as if people are treating the indictments as the final word on the subject. They aren’t, they are just accusations. I know that depending on whose ox is being gored, people will ignore that fact or ignore every other fact.

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What About The CIA and Plame?

First off, Alex at the Parks Department has put together an excellent list of leaks on “Wilsongate”.

As long as the press is faulting the Bush administration on the pace of it’s investigation into who leaked Valerie Plame’s CIA status, why aren’t they faulting Novak, who knows who leaked, and the six journalists who reportedly know who leaked (because they were leaked to but didn’t publish)? Oh that’s right, because their careers might suffer. Look, this is a serious matter, and probably a crime, and I for one think playing by journalism’s rules (as Craig repeats them from Edward J Epstein’s book) makes no sense. The bottom could be gotten to in an afternoon of eight journalists in front of a grand jury. I mean, do we really want the press to shield criminals? Does that really serve some larger purpose?

Plame’s employment with the CIA was classified. Sometimes people think if you have a security classification, its OK for you to be informed of any classified information of the appropriate level. This is not true. You have to have a need to know the classified information to carry out the tasks for which you have a security clearance. That is the general rule. I can’t be told classified information just because I have a clearance. Sometimes, it’s a little more formalized, and some information has an access list – in other words, only certain pre-defined people can be told particular classified information – they are the only ones to have a need to know. I would think in a properly run CIA, the identities of clandestine agents, which apparently covers Plame, would be access list controled, with a different list for each such agent, with the list limited to as small a number of people as possible. This limits the damage moles and captured agents can do.

So here’s what I find odd – how did somebody in the Bush Administration know she worked for the CIA? Did the CIA not keep her name close to the vest? As an undercover operative, you’d think they’d want to protect her name. Let’s turn to Nick Kristof’s piece (which I by and large agree with):”Third, Mrs. Wilson’s intelligence connections became known a bit in Washington as she rose in the CIA and moved to State Department cover, but her job remained a closely held secret.” This jibes with Clifford May’s piece in National Review that he was told in an offhand manner by a former government worker. In other words, somehow her status got out of the CIA itself – and excuse me, you can’t be an overcover operative if everybody knows you work for the CIA even if nobody knows what you do there. So as long as we’re investigating the leak from the Bush administration (which as I’ve pointed out before should be child’s play but isn’t), we should also be investigating the leak from the CIA (which nobody has mentioned yet). Maybe it was a structural leak – people who didn’t know she was an undercover operative (because that is a closely guarded secret known only to a few) didn’t see anything wrong in letting slip that she worked for the CIA because at this point she was currently not undercover- in which case the CIA needs to rethink how they handle that situation.

I have no idea how much damage this has done (if any) to CIA networks and agents – and anybody who does isn’t (or at least shouldn’t) be talking to the press. Apparently she may have been unmasked earlier – by our old buddy Aldrich Ames. Still, I’m upset that somebody either deliberately or inadvertinately in the Bush Administration leaked the name of a CIA operative, which is a serious breach of trust, and that the CIA didn’t protect their own operative.

Why hasn’t the press asked the question of how (not why or who) the name of an undercover CIA operative popped out of the mouth of an administration official? I guess because nobody’s leaked why that may be important to a journalist.

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